And speaking of suicide, I’m thinking the reason the shooter hasn’t, hours later, been found may be cuz he done did the deed and it’s harder to find a half-buried corpse or whatever than a live guy driving (what else) a white Ford F-150 pickup.
Motivewise, why does a guy who lives next door to a bar kill four people in it at ten AM?
I’m thinking this is the way you handle ongoing noise ordinance issues in Montana. There’s a presentation to the city council, and there’s The Way of the Glock.
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He had “mental issues for a long, long time,” says a neighbor. Same neighbor also says he saw the dude coming out of his house this morning with an AR 15…
Weawy? Open carry, permitless concealed carry, everybody armed to the teeth, drifts of drunk depressed delusional army vets dotting the hills like a host of golden daffodils … My dears, you’re awfully easily shocked…
And now that they’ve found his ditched pickup, are you going to be super shocked when they find his body?
And let’s say they don’t find him. Presumed dead.
How long does Anaconda/environs stay locked down?
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Oh plus everyone’s saying he was elaborately ostentatiously mad as a hatter but simply couldn’t find a mental hospital, therapist, psychological help OF ANY KIND.
He “suffered from significant mental health challenges, including schizophrenia and PTSD from serving in the Army.”
Says here there are three veteran-focused public mental hospitals in the state, and though a lot of the people listed here are all wrong for a vet with trauma, the list is very long. I understand the distance problem, but he clearly should have been resident in a hospital while getting treatment and of course someone should have taken his guns away if he was so dangerous to others. Are we going to be hearing from any of his family?
Okay. Family claims relevant hospitals turned him down. Need for more detail here. No primary care doc to prescribe meds? And why does a delusional schizophrenic who scares his family have guns? Why did the NFL shooter have guns? Why did this absolutely insane woman who killed her four daughters have guns?
Fact is, states like Montana get their high gun violence (suicide and homicide) rate because people there care much more about personal liberty than community safety. There’s a reason we call it the wild west.
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Leftwing version of this.
[A]ny intervention that has to be imposed on a vulnerable person is so fundamentally flawed and problematic that the best thing to do is nothing at all. Anyone offended by the sight of the suffering is just judging someone who’s having a mental-health episode, and any liberal who argues that the state can and should take control of someone in the throes of drugs and psychosis is basically a Republican. If and when the vulnerable person dies, that was his choice, and in San Francisco we congratulate ourselves on being very accepting of that choice...
… comes another trial. Another dazed degenerate shuffles stripe-shirted into court to explain why gifting his insane issue multiple semiautomatics was just what the doctor ordered.
UD covers gun news closely and can assure you that all over America every day men, women, and children walk easily about with small medium and large guns all over them. Of course some of this happens in open carry states, where everyone sees the gun, but no one (cough) responds…
As for the lack of response in midtown Manhattan — the area immediately around the shooter in the plaza is curiously devoid of people, so I’m assuming the response was run away. My response would certainly have been Give this person PLENTY of room.
I would also have called 911, and I’m assuming some people in fact did, but there wouldn’t have been a quick enough response to 911 to stop him.
Psychologically, there may have been denial/disbelief/maybe someone is filming a movie scene here... There may have been, in other words, human all too human tendencies to normalize/vaporize a twilight zone sight in the middle of the day.
Just as more Americans need training in active shooter drills, so more Americans need to be taught to lead their daily public lives with a heightened degree of paranoia.
Introduction,THE SHITS ARE TRYING TO KILL US, PEOPLE.GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD THAT THERE ARE FIVE HUNDRED MILLION GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY. Meets Wednesdays, basement of St Mark’s Episcopal, 7:00. Refreshments served.
“New York has some of the strongest gun laws in the nation. We banned assault weapons. We strengthened our Red Flag Law. We closed dangerous loopholes. But our laws only go so far when an AR-15 can be obtained in a state with weak gun laws and brought into New York to commit mass murder,” [Gov. Kathy] Hochul said in a statement on Tuesday morning. “Congress must summon the courage to stand up to the gun lobby and finally pass a national assault weapons ban before more innocent lives are stolen.”
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Nevada permits open carry, whereas New York does not.
Additionally, assault weapons are banned in New York but allowed in Nevada; there are some exceptions to this rule.
Another notable difference is that in New York, local jurisdictions such as cities and counties can enact stricter gun laws than the state.
In Nevada, jurisdictions cannot impose stricter regulations than those established by the state.
Not sure where this incredulity comes from. Multiple mass shootings all over the country are producing volunteers/veterans/victims of more than one theater of war. I saw action in Vegas and in Reno…
UD doesn’t understand much of what real estate super-executive Wesley LePatner is saying here; but then, before LePatner was pulverized by an M4 assault rifle in her building’s lobby yesterday, she moved in a world alien to UD’s.
What UDdoes understand is that she was way smart (Yale, history), hugely enterprising and ambitious, an art-lover, and a loving wife and mother. She came from generations of accomplished New Yorkers, and embodied the energy, brains, and civic disposition of the sort of people who work inside the city’s most iconic buildings.
An altogether exceptional person. And she was at the height of her powers when a madman who was able to get hold of an assault rifle (this is America, after all) blew her to pieces.
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And never was Wayne LaPierre’s famous saying (updated by UD) more true:
“The only way to stop a bad guy with an M4 assault rifle is with a good guy with an M4 assault rifle.”
It’s a goddamn shame Wesley LePatner wasn’t carrying an XM7/M7 Battle Rifle yesterday. What’s with New York’s restrictive gun laws?
Child on child murder (time was, we’d go the shooter is only 28? now it’s yeah yawn he’s 18…) in a University of New Mexico dorm room seems to have involved the shooter going berserk, either from drugs/alcohol, or natural berserkness.
Fuentes fled the dorm room and went toward his car. State police say Fuentes ended up on the first story roof of the Mesa Vista building where they say he smashed multiple windows, injuring himself.
State police say blood stains, a stolen Glock 9mm handgun, keys, and a pair of blue jeans were left on the roof of the Mesa Vista building.
He was driving his father’s car and holding a stolen gun; in a desperate effort not to be caught, he ditched the gun, the car, his bloody pants, etc.
Two guys in a pickup truck thought it’d be a good idea to pick up a crazed bloody half-naked kid, though they must have had second thoughts cuz the cops arrested him on the highway.
His young life flamed out in one way action packed gunny night… He’ll spend the next fifty years telling the story of his last free day to generations of inmates…
Someone approved publication of this letter to the editor which appeared in yesterday’s edition. We need to find out who did this, and we need to remind staff of Daily Cowboy policies. Hence the meeting.
The letter breaks a variety of editorial rules, prominent among them restrictions on content linking firearms and suicide. But it goes well beyond this, lecturing our readers (from the writer’s perch at the Bloomstein School of Health in New York City) on red flags, storage, and other matters in which this state and this paper take no interest.
I look forward to seeing all of you at the meeting.
New Mexico is currently – arguably – America’s most dangerous state. Read this post about Albuquerque. Remember that in 2023 a desperate NM governor declared a health emergency that made it illegal for anyone to carry a gun for thirty days. Everybody went nuts and boohooed and fuckyoued and i’ll sue your assed but the poor woman had just had enough of eleven year olds reduced to bloody pulps and she couldn’t think of anything else to do. She had it in her silly mind that murder by gun has something to do with guns.
Things are still so bloody in NM that I would avoid the state. An artsy weekend in Taos, sure; but don’t, for instance, let your kid go to college there. As we speak, the University of New Mexico is locked down – on new student orientation day! – because a shooter has already killed one person and injured another, and the police can’t find the guy.
What I’m trying to tell you is that statistically you’re significantly more likely to get blown away in and around Albuquerque NM than in most other places in this country; and even if you dodge every bullet, you might find it a little traumatizing to be in this ultimate gunny setting all the time. There are tons of colleges in Boston.
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They caught the dude but haven’t identified him yet. Based on voluminous precedent, let’s play Pin the Tail on the Suspect.
He’s a guy.
He’s nineteen years old.
Skinny.
White.
Lives with mom and dad, who own twenty guns. He owns ten.
Name long Mayflower kind of thing: Edwin “Win” Stackpole the Third.
Everyone who knows him knows he’s nuts, “and I always tell everyone,” says an acquaintance to a reporter, “that he shouldn’t be anywhere near guns.”
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I was off on the age by one year. Nineteen seems young, but in fact the killer was eighteen, and he killed a fourteen year old.
[T]he four were hanging out in the dorm room — which belonged to one of the occupants, a student — playing video games when the shots rang out. He said police were still investigating why gunfire erupted. He also declined to discuss why the 14-year-old was on campus, or what relation he had to others in the room.
Ooooh motive let’s see… The babe wouldn’t stop playing Bulletstorm and it pissed off the teenager who has been looking, for some time, for an excuse to shoot off one of his guns. There’s your motive.
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18-year-old Suspect Arrested in Shooting at University of New Mexico that Left 14-year-old Dead
In current American terms, 18 means ‘veteran shooter.’ Gun-onset age keeps dropping, so much so that soon the more routine headline will read
14-year-old Suspect Arrested in Shooting that Left Ten-year-old Dead
[Logan] Thorp walked up to the church side of the building and tried to open the doors, which were locked. He pressed the buzzer and a member of the church staff came to the door …
Thorp pushed past her, despite her telling him the church wasn’t open. The staff member summoned the superintendent, who found Thorp in the sanctuary. The superintendent talked with Thorp for a while, trying not to agitate him. Eventually, Thorp tried to walk down the preschool [corridor] but found it locked, and the superintendent directed him to the exit.
On his way out, Thorp said he would have kicked the glass in if the church staff member hadn’t let him in … After he left the building, Thorp stood on top of his truck and used his hands to mimic holding binoculars up to his eyes pointing at the church. When the superintendent asked what he was doing, Thorp made a motion with his finger and hand going across his neck as if to indicate a threat of harm.
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Amazingly, he not only failed to shoot up the place, but was just convicted of carrying a gun on school property. Should keep us safe from him for a year or two.
‘The Bible says in Romans 8:18, “For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.”
I hope that the Adams take comfort in that verse. I hope they can one day look forward to their reunion with their son.‘
