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Uday and Qusay

“His sons, Don Jr. and Eric — behind their backs known to Trump insiders as Uday and Qusay, after the sons of Saddam Hussein.”

Margaret Soltan, January 6, 2018 12:35AM
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6 Responses to “Uday and Qusay”

  1. adam Says:

    On this day Uday said to Qusay,
    I say, I say now, what do you say?
    DJT has lost his mind.
    Will he put us in a bind?
    How can we put some distance there, pray?
    Alas, my bro, there just ain’t no way.

  2. theprofessor Says:

    UD, this is the kind of bullshit that should set the plausibility alarm ringing loudly. You really think that “Trump insiders” are going to be referencing two guys who enjoyed perhaps 20 minutes of notoriety rather than the half-score and five allotted to normal sub-tyrants, reality-show participants, and minor Hollywood celebrities? Way, way too obscure. This represents the kind of thinking that aged obsessed liberals like Michael Wolff do. Just a year ago, it was MSNBC’s Chrissy Matthews who felt a thrill run up his leg when he stated that Ivanka and Jared were like Uday and Qusay. Round up 10,000 random Americans and ask them to identify who “Uday and Qusay” were. I would be amazed if you could get as many as three or four to answer correctly. Team Trump is about popular culture, and Uday & Qusay ain’t playahs in that arena. Word is that in his next tome, _Fake and Foolish_, Wolff will break the story that Haven Monahan was actually Don Jr.

  3. dmf Says:

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.833740

  4. adam Says:

    tp, isn’t the point of an inside joke that it is for insiders? I am sure there were plenty of arched eyebrows in the WH at that one.

  5. theprofessor Says:

    Adam, the basic point is not that “Trump insiders” would not have disparaging nicknames for the Trumpsons. It is that these particular nicknames are very unlikely to be used by the sorts of people we know are close to Trump. It doesn’t ring true in the least.

  6. Margaret Soltan Says:

    tp: For what it’s worth: My experience in Washington insider groups (not broad, but I’ve had some over the years) is that they indeed obsessively generate amusing, derogatory nicknames for their overlords and for the intimates of their overlords. It seems to me an almost inevitable defense mechanism among powerful, intelligent, and spirited people who nonetheless feel squashed. And you’re right that the creation and use of such names is more common among the one-step-down insiders than among the really close insiders. But the really close insiders are often known to use them too.

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